Komt Honda met opvolger NSX ? (Autovisie)

baRt · Post by **baRt** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:25 pm

ja precies...

maar als je nu je eigen auto pakt en daar een stukje hybride aan TOEVOEGT... dan heb je throttle respons, dan heb je power, dan heb je alles wat je nu hebt EN een hybride...

dat is in principe wat Lexus / Porsche / etc doen.

Dat kun je gewoon niet vergelijken met de suffe meuk die op onze wegen nu te vinden is...

mr. X · Post by **mr. X** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:27 pm

Vergeet niet dat de oude NSX inmiddels 20 jaar op de markt is en nog steeds mee kan. Als de nieuwe dat ook wil redden moeten ze hybride techniek toepassen.

Laat ze er maar lekker een hybride motor (BIJ) hangen. Zolang het maar een echte R wordt, die sneller rond de Nurburgring gaat dan een R35 :wink:

Benjdmin · Post by **Benjdmin** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:55 pm

If they can use Hybrid technology to be faster or as fast as the competition.

(Porsche 'GT3 RS, Turbo S...', Lexus LFA, GTR, Z06 just to name a few...)

Then, sure go for it!

Doubt that will happen though...

So yeah I stand by what I said earlier, THEY NEED TO BULD THE HSV WITH THE V10 TO MAKE IT HAPPEN! Rest is just a compromise and they might as well not build anything.

DH · Post by DH » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:56 am

Ik denk dat 406pk veel te weinig is als je naar de concurentie kijkt.
De GTR heeft veel meer vermogen en past misschien nog niet eens tussen de supercars als bijvoorbeeld de R8 e.c.
600pk HSV was een killer geweest...dan had hij tussen een mooi rijtje auto`s gestaan. :roll:

DH · Post by DH » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:57 am

Ik denk dat 406pk veel te weinig is als je naar de concurentie kijkt.
De GTR heeft veel meer vermogen en past misschien nog niet eens tussen de supercars als bijvoorbeeld de R8 e.c.
600pk HSV was een killer geweest...dan had hij tussen een mooi rijtje auto`s gestaan. :roll:

iVTEC-fab · Post by **iVTEC-fab** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:22 pm

uuh,

GTR is misschien wel Ã©Ã©n van de ultiemste supercars imo :razz:

DH · Post by DH » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:50 pm

iVTEC-fab wrote:uuh,

GTR is misschien wel Ã©Ã©n van de ultiemste supercars imo :razz:

Tegen de F340,R8,GT2,599 of ZR1 legt hij het hard af als ik me niet vergis.

Benjdmin · Post by **Benjdmin** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:10 pm

As far as I know the GTR is quite the contender for most Supercars.

And I would for sure consider it as a Supercar.

Jan Visser · Post by **Jan Visser** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:18 pm

Dc5-Driver wrote:
"iVTEC-fab":rq08jqpm wrote:uuh,

GTR is misschien wel Ã©Ã©n van de ultiemste supercars imo :razz:

Tegen de F340,R8,GT2,599 of ZR1 legt hij het hard af als ik me niet vergis.[/quote:rq08jqpm]

Production vehicles
Length↓][2][3]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 6:55 Radical SR8 Michael Vergers 28 September 2005 Radical Sportscars[4] Timed by Sport Auto [5][6][7]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:11.5 Gumpert Apollo Speed Florian Gruber 13 August 2009 Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:14.89 Sport auto (Germany) (Short Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:18 Porsche 911 GT2 RS Timo Kluck April 2010 [7] [8] Manufacturer claim.
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:18.1 Donkervoort D8 RS Michael DÃ¼chting 24 October 2004 Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:22.1 Dodge Viper ACR (2009) Tom Coronel 18 August 2008 Chrysler conducted test,[9] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option|title=Dodge Viper ACR Sets Nurburgring Lap Record video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).
7:24 Porsche 911 GT2 RS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2010)
20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed] 7:24.22 Nissan GT-R (2011) Toshio Suzuki October 2010 Nissan conducted test.[10] Semi-wet conditions.
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:24.3 Maserati MC12 Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:24.44 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:25.7 Ferrari Enzo Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test. It had a broken electronic damper on its run.
20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed] 7:26.4 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009) Jim Mero 27 June 2008 General Motors conducted test,[11] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer)| 20,832 m (68,346 ft)
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:26.70 Nissan GT-R (2009) Toshio Suzuki 23 April 2009 Nissan Motors conducted test. video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).[12]
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:27.82 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport Marc Basseng September 2007 Pagani conducted test,[13][14] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:28.71 Porsche Carrera GT Walter RÃ¶hrl 2 July 2004 (07/04) [14]
20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed] 7:29.03 Nissan GT-R (2009) Toshio Suzuki 17 April 2008 Nissan Motors conducted test,.[15][16][17] The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.
20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed] 7:32.02 Porsche 911 GT2 (2008) Walter RÃ¶hrl 2007 Porsche conducted test,[18] R compound tires used.[citation needed]
7:33 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (04/2010), PCCB [19]
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:33.6 Koenigsegg CCX Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:34 Koenigsegg CCR Horst von Saurma 17 October 2005 Sport Auto (03/2006)[20]
7:34 Porsche 911 GT2 September 2008 Porsche conducted test,[21] stock vehicle with stock tires
7:34 Nissan GT-R (2012) Horst von Saurma October 2010 Sport Auto (11/2010),.[22]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:35 Ruf Rt 12 Sport Auto (02/2008)[23]
7:38 Lexus LFA Horst von Saurma September 2010 Sport Auto conducted test,[24] Bridgestone Potenza S001 tires used.
7:38 Porsche 911 Turbo September 2008 Porsche conducted test,[21] stock vehicle with stock tires
7:38 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 Horst von Saurma October 2009 Sport Auto conducted test,[25] Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires used.
7:38 Nissan GT-R Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (07/2009),[26] Dunlop SP Sport 600 DSST run flat tires used.
7:38 Ferrari 458 Italia Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2010), Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires used.
7:39 Porsche 911 Turbo (2010) Porsche Conducted Test [27] Stock vehicle with stock tires
7:39 Ferrari 430 Scuderia Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (07/2008)[28]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:40 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Giorgio Sanna Lamborghini Autobild (01/2007)
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:40 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Klaus Ludwig AutoBild (07/2004)[citation needed]
7:40 Porsche 911 GT3 997MkII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (06/2009)[29]
7:40 Mercedes SLS AMG Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (2010)[30]
7:40.6 Ford GT Markus Draper Octane Magazine[citation needed]
7:42 Porsche 911 GT3 Walter RÃ¶hrl Automobil (05/2006) Sport Auto (05/2006)
7:42 Lamborghini MurciÃ©lago LP670-4 SV Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (01/2010?) [31]
7:42.99 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 Jan Magnussen 2005 General Motors,[32][33] Motor Trend confirmed
7:43 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 'Motor' magazine[citation needed]
7:44 Audi R8 V10 Sport Auto (09/2009)
7:44 Pagani Zonda S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (02/2005)
7:46 Porsche 911 GT2 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (06/2001)
7:46 Lamborgini Gallardo Superleggera Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (09/2007)[34]
7:46.36 Jaguar XJ220 John Nielsen Evo (07/2000) [35]
7:47 Porsche 911 GT3 RS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2004)
7:47 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano Horst von Saurma Sport Auto[36]
7:47 Lamborghini MurciÃ©lago LP640 E-gear Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (01/2007), Sport tires[citation needed]
7:48 BMW M3 GTS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto[37]
7:49 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 Horst von Saurma 22 June 2007 Sport Auto[38]
7:50 BMW M3 CSL Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2003)

Kijk eens naar de tijden hierboven en kijk dan nog eens goed naar de tijden van de 2009 en 2011 GT-R!

Zijn niet veel auto's die sneller zijn dan de 2011 GT-R met een tijd van 7:24.22. En voor de auto's die wel onder de 7:30 komen koop je in ieder geval altijd 3 of meer Nissans's......

DH · Post by DH » Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:46 am

Jan Visser wrote:
"Dc5-Driver":5yen3c5d wrote:
"iVTEC-fab":5yen3c5d wrote:uuh,

GTR is misschien wel Ã©Ã©n van de ultiemste supercars imo :razz:

Tegen de F340,R8,GT2,599 of ZR1 legt hij het hard af als ik me niet vergis.[/quote:5yen3c5d]

Production vehicles
Length↓][2][3]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 6:55 Radical SR8 Michael Vergers 28 September 2005 Radical Sportscars[4] Timed by Sport Auto [5][6][7]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:11.5 Gumpert Apollo Speed Florian Gruber 13 August 2009 Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:14.89 Sport auto (Germany) (Short Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:18 Porsche 911 GT2 RS Timo Kluck April 2010 [7] [8] Manufacturer claim.
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:18.1 Donkervoort D8 RS Michael DÃ¼chting 24 October 2004 Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:22.1 Dodge Viper ACR (2009) Tom Coronel 18 August 2008 Chrysler conducted test,[9] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option|title=Dodge Viper ACR Sets Nurburgring Lap Record video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).
7:24 Porsche 911 GT2 RS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2010)
20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed] 7:24.22 Nissan GT-R (2011) Toshio Suzuki October 2010 Nissan conducted test.[10] Semi-wet conditions.
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:24.3 Maserati MC12 Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:24.44 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:25.7 Ferrari Enzo Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test. It had a broken electronic damper on its run.
20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed] 7:26.4 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009) Jim Mero 27 June 2008 General Motors conducted test,[11] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer)| 20,832 m (68,346 ft)
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:26.70 Nissan GT-R (2009) Toshio Suzuki 23 April 2009 Nissan Motors conducted test. video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).[12]
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:27.82 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport Marc Basseng September 2007 Pagani conducted test,[13][14] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:28.71 Porsche Carrera GT Walter RÃ¶hrl 2 July 2004 (07/04) [14]
20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed] 7:29.03 Nissan GT-R (2009) Toshio Suzuki 17 April 2008 Nissan Motors conducted test,.[15][16][17] The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.
20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed] 7:32.02 Porsche 911 GT2 (2008) Walter RÃ¶hrl 2007 Porsche conducted test,[18] R compound tires used.[citation needed]
7:33 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (04/2010), PCCB [19]
20,832 m (68,346 ft) 7:33.6 Koenigsegg CCX Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:34 Koenigsegg CCR Horst von Saurma 17 October 2005 Sport Auto (03/2006)[20]
7:34 Porsche 911 GT2 September 2008 Porsche conducted test,[21] stock vehicle with stock tires
7:34 Nissan GT-R (2012) Horst von Saurma October 2010 Sport Auto (11/2010),.[22]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:35 Ruf Rt 12 Sport Auto (02/2008)[23]
7:38 Lexus LFA Horst von Saurma September 2010 Sport Auto conducted test,[24] Bridgestone Potenza S001 tires used.
7:38 Porsche 911 Turbo September 2008 Porsche conducted test,[21] stock vehicle with stock tires
7:38 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 Horst von Saurma October 2009 Sport Auto conducted test,[25] Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires used.
7:38 Nissan GT-R Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (07/2009),[26] Dunlop SP Sport 600 DSST run flat tires used.
7:38 Ferrari 458 Italia Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2010), Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires used.
7:39 Porsche 911 Turbo (2010) Porsche Conducted Test [27] Stock vehicle with stock tires
7:39 Ferrari 430 Scuderia Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (07/2008)[28]
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:40 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Giorgio Sanna Lamborghini Autobild (01/2007)
20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:40 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Klaus Ludwig AutoBild (07/2004)[citation needed]
7:40 Porsche 911 GT3 997MkII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (06/2009)[29]
7:40 Mercedes SLS AMG Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (2010)[30]
7:40.6 Ford GT Markus Draper Octane Magazine[citation needed]
7:42 Porsche 911 GT3 Walter RÃ¶hrl Automobil (05/2006) Sport Auto (05/2006)
7:42 Lamborghini MurciÃ©lago LP670-4 SV Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (01/2010?) [31]
7:42.99 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 Jan Magnussen 2005 General Motors,[32][33] Motor Trend confirmed
7:43 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 'Motor' magazine[citation needed]
7:44 Audi R8 V10 Sport Auto (09/2009)
7:44 Pagani Zonda S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (02/2005)
7:46 Porsche 911 GT2 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (06/2001)
7:46 Lamborgini Gallardo Superleggera Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (09/2007)[34]
7:46.36 Jaguar XJ220 John Nielsen Evo (07/2000) [35]
7:47 Porsche 911 GT3 RS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2004)
7:47 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano Horst von Saurma Sport Auto[36]
7:47 Lamborghini MurciÃ©lago LP640 E-gear Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (01/2007), Sport tires[citation needed]
7:48 BMW M3 GTS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto[37]
7:49 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 Horst von Saurma 22 June 2007 Sport Auto[38]
7:50 BMW M3 CSL Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2003)

Kijk eens naar de tijden hierboven en kijk dan nog eens goed naar de tijden van de 2009 en 2011 GT-R!

Zijn niet veel auto's die sneller zijn dan de 2011 GT-R met een tijd van 7:24.22. En voor de auto's die wel onder de 7:30 komen koop je in ieder geval altijd 3 of meer Nissans's......[/quote:5yen3c5d]

Ehm.... :lol:

De boodschap is duidelijk. :wink: